The Purple Principle, a non-partisan podcast for independent-minded Americans exploring the perils of partisanship in U.S. politics, society and daily life, recently featured four leaders in the independent voting movement in the episode “The Forty Million Missing: America’s Independent Voters and Voices.” In the episode, these four leaders – Jacqueline Salit, president of Independent Voting; Laura Sibilia, independent legislator in the Vermont Assembly; John Opdycke, president of Open Primaries; and Thom Reilly, chancellor of the Nevada System of Higher Education – share their experiences as prominent, politically-engaged political independents. Salit and Reilly recently co-authored the chapter “Can Independent Voters Save American Democracy?” in the book Democracy Unchained: How to Rebuild Government for the People.

Listen to the full episode below.